Nicofo

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1. Le dimanche 25 février 2007, 17:40 par xanax

Ya pas à dire, tu es incollable concernant tout ce qui tourne autour de XGL et beryl. Chapeau pour tes docs.

2. Le mardi 6 mars 2007, 21:19 par dustman

How do I undo the changes your script made? cause I get an error and it said the installation cannot continue....but there I said: "YES, continue" and now I have problems with missing DRI's, and no direct rendering :P

3. Le mardi 6 mars 2007, 22:12 par Nicofo

What was the error ?
If your ATI card's drivers are installed and work fine, XGL should work...

To remove the config files of XGL, download the script nicofo.tuxfamily.org/scri... and run 'configureXgl -r'
And to remove the rpm of XGL: 'yum remove gset-compiz libsvg xorg-x11-server-Xgl xgl-hardware-list'

4. Le mercredi 7 mars 2007, 11:50 par dustman

Well, I think something about missing dependencies...Anyway...I manually removed those packagese from the Package Manager. The funny thing that happens when I try to install XGL, or compiz, is that all my controls become flasky(think it's the rigth word, the movements of cursors, wiindows, tabs, menus, become like I'd have a huge latency, lag etc ->like in Counter-strike when your connection is weak). Btw....isn't there in Fedora a log that records everything that happens in the console? Because if there is somnething like that, I could copy paste exactly the error the script gave me...

Cheers!

Radu

5. Le vendredi 9 mars 2007, 14:08 par Nicofo

In fact, you can see the log of the programs that are run at your login (like the programs started automatically at your gnome or kde session, including here XGL and compiz (or beryl: have you it installed ?)). After login, see the file ~/.xsession-errors . If there is a problem at launching XGL or compiz, it will appear there.

6. Le jeudi 15 mars 2007, 20:18 par ian

I too am getting an error saying installation cannot continue.

says it needs libgnome something and control-center.

i have a kde desktop. what do i do?

7. Le jeudi 15 mars 2007, 20:42 par Nicofo

You will have to install control-center (and libgome or whatever it says) [use yum].
That's because compiz depends partially on gnome (but runs perfectly in KDE too)

8. Le dimanche 18 mars 2007, 06:43 par ian

got it. and compiz works fine, but now, beryl isnt working. when i choose beryl from the XGL window manager, everything goes EXTREMELY slow, and beryl crashes, falling back to the KDE WM. if i run beryl or beryl-manager from the terminal, i get the same thing. if i run beryl-xgl beryl seems to work, BUT i get the dreaded white cube (all the faces are white, no windows, nothing, just the top and bottom of the cube). is there a fix for the white cube issue? i believe i have beryl version 0.1.9999.2

Fedora Core 6
XGL
ATI 9600 vid card

9. Le dimanche 18 mars 2007, 14:40 par Nicofo

The command to launch beryl is "beryl-xgl --use-copy". This option ensures you will get rid off the white cube. Can you test it, and eventually give the errors of that command ?
Normally, this is the command launched when you choose beryl in "XGL Window Manager".

10. Le lundi 19 mars 2007, 19:51 par ian

yea, beryl-manager seems to be my problem. when i start beryl with the beryl-manager thats when it crashes and goes really slow. but it runs fine without the manager. thanks.

11. Le lundi 19 mars 2007, 22:18 par Nicofo

And if you choose "Beryl (without beryl-manager)" in "XGL Window Manager", it works now I assume ?
Rem: if you have installed beryl after my script, the first time you start Beryl you must restart your Gnome session in order that my startup script can configure beryl-manager.

12. Le mardi 27 mars 2007, 21:31 par Edoardo

This guide is great!
Had some problems in the beginning, realiased it was because my arch is x86_64 so I simply changed every i386 -> x86_64 in the script,
plus I had to replace the line with rpm "compiz-1.0.0-4.x86_64.rpm"
and finally it worked!!!
Compiz on HPNX6325 on FC6
seems pretty stable too,
now the only problem I have is that I cannot activate gset-compiz (compiz configurator) it crashes with:
** ERROR **: Plugin directory not found, exiting...

probably only a minor issue.
anyway, thanks for this post, it really helped

13. Le mardi 27 mars 2007, 22:33 par Nicofo

Thanks for your feedback.
I hadn't thought about the 64 bits architecture. I will adapt the install script (when I'll have the time...).

I think that for your gset-compiz problem, you have just to create the directory /usr/lib/compiz
Can you confirm if it works ?

14. Le mardi 27 mars 2007, 22:50 par Edoardo

don't worry...nobody thinks 64bit
anyway, after creating the dir /usr/lib/compiz I managed to have gset-compiz started for a couple of times, now (for this session) it crashes with a segfault. Don't know what it could be, compiz on the other hand is super stable! it even works together with synergy!

I was wondering: now that I have compiz up and running, wouldn't be better if I compile it on my machine? will I have to change something to make it work with Xgl?

15. Le dimanche 1 avril 2007, 15:25 par Nicofo

It's done: script updated for x64_86 architecture.

For your compilation question: I don't know. But you will probably have sth to change to make it work with XGL since the compiz version provided by Fedora doesn't work with XGL ! That's the reason why I have to remove it and install another version.

16. Le dimanche 8 avril 2007, 17:18 par chris

salut nicofo, super ton tuto et tes scripts !!
ca simplifie trop la vie , c'est génial

j'ai juste une question, mon beryl freeze a l'ouverture de session avec kde+xgl sur mon portable avec une carte ATI XPress 1100. J'ai bien suivi ton tuto , mais rien n'y fait, ca plante des que la session, alors j'ai bien l'accel graph, avec le pilote fglrx
ca fait quelques jours que je galère dessu , tu aurais une idée de la ou ca pourrait venir ??
Mon portable est un 64bits, ca pourrait venir de la ?

merci en tout cas

17. Le mardi 10 avril 2007, 23:09 par Nicofo

Salut,
c'est bien toi qui as résolu ton problème là forums.fedora-fr.org/view... ? Me semble reconnaître 2 pb fort similaires

Si c'est le cas, tant mieux, ça roule (et ça me permet de voir que ça marche tout aussi bien avec un 64 bits)

18. Le jeudi 19 avril 2007, 23:23 par HltreX

how can i run your installation of XGL form my harddisk.

19. Le vendredi 20 avril 2007, 19:57 par Nicofo

do you mean without having to connect to the internet ? I suggest you have a look at the manual installation of XGL (it's in French - clic on [afficher/cacher] - , but you will understand the commands).
The points c) and d) are the important one. Replace point c) by downloading one by one the rpm mentioned on the site of fedora-xgl.
Rem: as mentioned, dependencies are needed (glitz-glx) => to download too.

20. Le vendredi 4 mai 2007, 02:48 par Scott

Got the following message... after "service fglrx restart"

Checking for module fglrx.ko:                           [FAILED]
fglrx.ko for kernel 2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 was not found.    [WARNING]
fglrx DRI will not be enabled until one is found.       [WARNING]

Go easy on me, I'm a linux newbie.

21. Le vendredi 4 mai 2007, 18:39 par Nicofo

This is probably because you are running a 2.6.18 kernel but you have installed the kmod-fglrx for the latest kernel (2.6.20) [and you have installed by the way that latest kernel].
==> don't worry: simply reboot ! (by default, you will reboot on latest kernel). Then check your installation through "fglrxinfo".
If it doesn't work, what returns

rpm -q kernel
rpm -qa kmod\*|sort
uname -r

22. Le mardi 15 mai 2007, 03:06 par CarlWang

I'd like to thank u for wasting some time to help me out here
I run in terminal as u gave:
yum install kmod-fglrx

but it turns out to be:
No Match for argument: kmod-fglrx

what can i do?
i'm a new to Linux

BTW: my pc general info
ATI x700 Redeon
AMD 64 3000+

the OS is Fedora Core 6 (kernel: 2.6.18 by default, without updating)
I can do the rest in a right way only if you tell what to do to solve the "No match" problem. excute me for my poor English (that's one of the only foreign languages i can speak, the other is Japanese... )and thank u.

23. Le mardi 15 mai 2007, 21:25 par Nicofo

hello,
the kmod-fglrx comes from the livna repository: you have to install it first with the command: rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-6.rpm
Then rerun yum install kmod-fglrx
PS: it will update your kernel at the same time.
PS2: If you encounter a problem with yum, let me know and give me the result of uname -a : I'd give a workaround.

24. Le mercredi 16 mai 2007, 05:55 par germanslr

Hey please cane you tell me how to run the script??? I mean i downloaded it but don't know how to run it please help !

25. Le mercredi 16 mai 2007, 07:56 par CarlWang

Thank you
nicofo

i'v installed fglrx driver now
and I can make
fglrx-config-display
enabled, that's really nice

but i just can't make the
aticonfig --initial
right

the terminal follows as below

        Found fglrx primary device section
        Nothing to do, terminating.

i run in terminal:
glxinfo | grep direct

result:

        Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
        direct rendering: No
        OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

what can i do now?

i havn't modified xorg.config file since there are very few sections and no ATI related info can be found. so i think i should firstly solve the ATI initial problem.

BTW
i've try aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
and failed too

thank u very much for ur help i've been installing and unistalling Linux for 4 days...and the ATI driver is just a pain in the neck

best regards

26. Le mercredi 16 mai 2007, 08:07 par CarlWang

PS:
before i install fglrx i used "yum update" to update my system. so the kernel is now 6.20

27. Le mercredi 16 mai 2007, 08:11 par CarlWang

PS2:(sorry to make your page to long)
the fglrxinfo:

Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)

28. Le jeudi 17 mai 2007, 00:48 par Nicofo

@germanslr: see above: I have updated the tutorial
@CarlWang: The "aticonfig --initial" just says there is nothing to do since it does find the fglrx device (=the lovely name of the driver) => OK
Now you can modify your xorg.conf as I mention in the tuto.

29. Le jeudi 17 mai 2007, 01:31 par CarlWang

I thought that's the problem of the updated kernel (by yum update)
so i removed the kernel and reinstalled it with the fglrx (just let fglrx decide which verstion should install) but grub the loader just could not find kernel any more... even if i reinstalled and configured grup.
how ever, it doesn't matter. I'll install FC6 again to see if the driver works.
thank u very much.
i've waiting for a really long time...
i thought if you reply at 21:00 i could see the post at 4:00 am so i got up 6:00 am ;P
but u replied at 00:48 so i see your words at about 7:00.just now i was worrying that u'll reply tomorrow...so i've to wait for another day
thank u for check your blog everyday and help me out:)
00:48 ... typical programmer...

30. Le jeudi 17 mai 2007, 12:02 par Nicofo

time difference problem...

Normally, the kernel installed with 'yum update' (=the latest) is the same as the one installed as dependency with 'yum install kmod-fglrx' (because there is one kmod per kernel - the kmod is updated at the same time as a new kernel is released).

31. Le vendredi 18 mai 2007, 03:32 par CarlWang

I've installed beryl and it's really cool. thank u!

however my linux seemed to be not so stable...for countless times, it just stuck there and gave no responce to keyboard and mouse input ...so i have to restart(totally no responce so ctrl + Fx cannot be used)

once i got such info when linux booting:
{
cpu 0: Machine check
Exception 0000000000000004
Bank 4: b200001000010c0f
kernel panic - not syncing:
cpu context corrupt
}
i know it's hardware problem but the problem is too difficult for a linux beginner...

later i found the command
"setsebool -P allow_execmod=1"
in some forum and i used it
and my pc seems to be all right now
i dont know why -_-?
I'm using linux now , it's cool.
thank u for your help, it's really nice of u

32. Le vendredi 18 mai 2007, 14:11 par Nicofo

Glad to see it's working

You had a SElinux problem. You have found the right solution for it:

setsebool -P allow_execstack=1
setsebool -P allow_execmod=1

PS: sometimes beryl crashes and your screen seems frozen. To restart beryl, foreseen a shortcut with beryl-manager to "startCompositeWM --restartBeryl" i.e.:
- In General Options > General Options > Commands > Command <x>, enter startCompositeWM --restartBeryl
- In General Options > General Options > Shortcuts > Commands > Run command <x>, enter your shortcut, for example <Shift><Control>F12
Now, if beryl crashes, just enter <Shift><Control>F12 and it's done !

33. Le vendredi 18 mai 2007, 16:45 par Gvsreddy

Hi........Excellent work......I was waiting for this for a long time.....Finally today because of this site I was able to enable beryl......Yo Yo this rocks man.......<br>But the problem is whenever I use XGL there was no direct-rendering. I dont know why.........Can anyone help me or clarify me.....

34. Le samedi 19 mai 2007, 10:28 par Nicofo

I know, there is no direct rendering with XGL. But you can use the command "noXgl" to get it (if you need it for a game, or whatever).

35. Le vendredi 25 mai 2007, 20:18 par dawson

I really appreciate the walk through. I now have my ATI Xpress 1270 working. When I loaded 64bit Fedora Core 6 earlier this week, X wouldn’t even start. Now I have direct rendering! The really odd thing is that I went through the steps yesterday and when I ran “fglrxinfo” I would get an error “fglrx can not find display :0”. This morning I start up the Compaq 6715b and all is good. Ah well on to Beryl.
Thanks again
scott

36. Le dimanche 27 mai 2007, 10:38 par goulash

when i run the command: 'yum install kmod-fglrx'
i get the following error output: (below)

 Transaction Check Error:
  package kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 is already installed
  file /boot/System.map-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6
  file /boot/config-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6
  file /boot/symvers-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6.gz from install of kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6
  file /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.20-1.2948.fc6

Error Summary
-------------

37. Le dimanche 27 mai 2007, 10:39 par goulash

sorry i forgot to ask for help when posting last post..
so any help is much appreciated.. ~thanks

38. Le dimanche 27 mai 2007, 11:25 par goulash

hi again.. (for the 3rd time ^_^)

the problem i was having (post #36) was due to fedora 6 installing the i586 kernel when i needed the i686 kernel...
at this link=> fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bu... there is a script that will upgrade the kernel to i686... i ran the script, then there are no errors..
now i'm going to finsh your guide and see if i can get beryl working.. :P

39. Le dimanche 27 mai 2007, 13:09 par goulash

hi again.. :P i've got everything working, beryl installed also...
but when i click on, say for example, firefox from my task bar, it opens very slowly now with beryl... also after beryl install, direct rendering = No, from otpt of glxinfo command.. any help?

40. Le lundi 28 mai 2007, 22:22 par Nicofo

Hello,
- see post #34 above: with XGL, to get direct rendering, you must use "noXgl".
- for your problem of slowness: are you sure the drivers are correctly working: try by running a non-XGL session and launch any 3D-application (like the game ppracer [install it through yum]).
Have you the same problem with Compiz ?

41. Le mardi 29 mai 2007, 08:53 par goulash

hello.. thank you for responding.. yes the drivers are working..
i tested with ppracer as you said.. it works fine... i just noticed, if i comment out these lines in xorg.conf:

    Option        "UseFastTLS" "0"
    Option        "BlockSignalsOnLock" "on"
    Option        "ForceGenericCPU" "off"
    Option        "KernelModuleParm" "locked-userpages=0"

then it isn't slow.. so those entries in xorg.conf have something to do with it..
but it runs fine without them... so i guess i'll just leave them out.. that's strange.. also, beryl seems to hang when i use beryl with manager.. do you have any ideas about that? also, hehe, glxinfo gives this error:

Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0".

but beryl and compiz still seem to function fine (except for beryl with manager)..
so if i can't use the beryl manager, how do i tweak the beryl settings..

i really appreciate the help.. your guide is very good too.. good work..

42. Le mardi 29 mai 2007, 17:56 par Nicofo

glxinfo gives this error:
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0".

use noXgl glxinfo and see the difference.

so if i can't use the beryl manager, how do i tweak the beryl settings..

you can launch it through the menu 'Applications' > 'System Tools' > 'Beryl Settings Manager'.

43. Le mercredi 30 mai 2007, 09:28 par CarlWang

It's me again
It's really sorry that my FC has been not so stable...though i use
//----------------------------------
setsebool -P allow_execstack=1
setsebool -P allow_execmod=1
//----------------------------------

and configured all the stuff as u gave
I think it's the problem with the 2.6.20.XXX kernel and fglrx driver...however, the old kernel seems stable for my PC(2.6.18.XXX)

I got this conclusion cause:
1. FC 6 is stable before I updating the kernel and installing fglrx
2. FC 6 is unstable after I updating the kernel and installing fglrx
2. Ubuntu 7.04(which includes a new kernel) is quite unstable and for the 64 version, Gnome is even cannot be accessed...

If I donot install Graphic driver, the resolution is 800x600, and the rate is 65Hz and just cannot be set.
But if I installed it, the OS is just so fragile.
B.T.W: I've tried KDE, and it turns out not Gnome's problem.

It's a really tough expearence...
Fedora 7 is to be released, should i try that, or if there is any way to make my computer perferm just all right.

Firstly I should be able to use OS then the appearence...
show me the way, the way to the Linux...my friend.

44. Le samedi 2 juin 2007, 05:35 par Carl

i guess i've found the problem.
i turned off the
"cpuspeed"
service before startup(using interative startup and later turned it off with ntsysv)

and there's no freeze or lockup till now...
that's weired...
if it's a bug, it's a big bug.

45. Le dimanche 3 juin 2007, 10:57 par mariusp

Nice script, just wondering if anyone tried on F7? I installed without a hitch on Fedora 7 but there is a problem after I log in. I cannot see any of the actions that I perform, for example a right click on the desktop, or opening firefox or any of the menus. The only thing I can do is rotate the cube. Anyone else meet this type of behavior?

46. Le dimanche 3 juin 2007, 20:46 par Nicofo

Hello,
so you have achieved to install the fglrx drivers on F7 ! I thought it was not possible for the moment...
Have you the same problem with compiz ? and with beryl launched without beryl-manager ? (use "chooseCompositeWM")

47. Le mardi 5 juin 2007, 03:19 par EastonRoyce

Awesome! Flawless!

48. Le mardi 5 juin 2007, 16:34 par mariusp

Nicofo: yes, I managed to get fglrx with F7 but I had to install the xserver-xorg package from FC6 (mariusp.spanning.ro/index...). Compiz is also acting up. Some effects work, such as alt tab, rotating the cube but It is as if the screen does not refresh. I have a console open and anything I type into it is not visible, I have to go to a virtual console and killall beryl-xgl or compiz in order to get metacity back and then I can see the desktop again. Very strange

49. Le mercredi 6 juin 2007, 21:45 par yr

Hi!
I was get this error om my Fedora 6 x86-64 note with ATI x1600 (CoreDuo HP-Compaq nc8430):

Examining Xgl-settings-0.1-3.fc6.noarch.rpm: Xgl-settings - 0.1-3.fc6.noarch
Marking Xgl-settings-0.1-3.fc6.noarch.rpm to be installed
Resolving Dependencies
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package xorg-x11-server-Xgl.i386 0:0-0.5.20070102git.fc6 set to be updated
...................
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: libglitz.so.1 for package: xorg-x11-server-Xgl
--> Processing Dependency: libglitz-glx.so.1 for package: xorg-x11-server-Xgl
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: libglitz.so.1 is needed by package xorg-x11-server-Xgl
Error: Missing Dependency: libglitz-glx.so.1 is needed by package xorg-x11-server-Xgl

Error at the installation of the RPM of XGL and compiz.

BUT fact is that I HAVE bglitz.so.1 (x86-64) and libglitz-glx.so.1 (x86-64) NORMALLY installed (yum reported that libraries installed OK).

Can you advise?

With best regards, YR

50. Le jeudi 7 juin 2007, 14:55 par leigh123@linux

For anyone wanting to install fglrx on F7

Pour n'importe qui voulant installer le fglrx sur F7

forums.fedoraforum.org/fo...

51. Le jeudi 7 juin 2007, 21:42 par Nicofo

@yr: can you give me the results of

rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}
" glitz-glx glitz

52. Le samedi 9 juin 2007, 15:49 par yr

Ok, is it:

[root@localhost ~]# rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH} " glitz-glx glitz
glitz-glx-0.5.6-5.fc6.x86_64
glitz-0.5.6-5.fc6.x86_64
[root@localhost ~]#

WBR
YR

53. Le samedi 9 juin 2007, 16:58 par Nicofo

OK, this is probably a 64 bits problem. Can you remove these 2 packages and install the i386 versions ?

yum remove glitz glitz-glx
rpm -Uhv http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/i386/glitz-0.5.6-5.fc6.i386.rpm
rpm -Uhv http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/i386/glitz-glx-0.5.6-5.fc6.i386.rpm

Now re-run installXGL_EN. Tell me if this works.

54. Le lundi 11 juin 2007, 13:52 par yr

Hi. I was remove 64-bit versions of glitz and glitz-glx, but installer is install one AGAIN WITH 386 versions.
So now

[root@localhost ~]# rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}
" glitz-glx glitz
glitz-glx-0.5.6-5.fc6.i386
glitz-glx-0.5.6-5.fc6.x86_64
glitz-0.5.6-5.fc6.i386
glitz-0.5.6-5.fc6.x86_64
[root@localhost ~]#

The installation passed "OK", but if I load "KDE with Xgl" -- all interface freeze (any klick or menu reaction occupe up to 3-5 minutes). In Gnome inteface works, but render in open window borrow minutes... Beryll decorations is not visible; if I switch on Compiz - the panels is unloaded at all... Maybe 386 version not work with x86-64 at all?
WBR
YR

55. Le lundi 11 juin 2007, 18:19 par Nicofo

Hi. OK probably the 386 version of XGL is not compatible with your x86-64 installation. Just to be sure, retry an XGL session after deleting the 86_64 version of glitz[-glx].
Otherwise, I have 2 solutions for you:
a) the best - compile the x86-64 version of XGL using the sources (this src.rpm) from here
b) the simplest - use the FC5 version of my script (installXGL_FC5_EN): this version uses the right rpm according to the x86-64 or i386 installation. It works with FC6 (but with old packages...)
Keep me up to date

56. Le mardi 12 juin 2007, 22:08 par SHRIKEE

I just used your script. Somehow the repository your script adds makes yum go nuts... When i remove the repository manually it works fine again.

57. Le mercredi 13 juin 2007, 16:29 par SHRIKEE

Today i tried your script on a fresh install (yesterday already had beryl installed) and now it worked without a hitch!!

Im not sure what the error before was...

58. Le mercredi 13 juin 2007, 16:52 par yr

I was try ti install installXGL_FC5_EN, but on x86-64 mashine end distro the result in practically ident (interface freezes)... I wil try to compile x86-64 version of XGL...

59. Le mercredi 13 juin 2007, 22:33 par Nicofo

Hello SHRIKEE,
glad to see it's working !
Are you under FC6/F7 ? What repository are you talking about ? The new version of the script doesn't use any repo anymore.

60. Le jeudi 14 juin 2007, 19:22 par yr

...OK, I was try to compile x86-64 version. So first step is

rpm -ivh xorg-x11-server-Xgl-0-0.5.20070102git.fc6.src.rpm
then
rpmbuild -bb xorg-x11-server-Xgl.spec
in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS
In addition I install glitz-glx-devel, libdmx-devel and mesa-source --
but have error in result of compilation:
...

gcc -shared  .libs/xglxmodule.o -Wl,--whole-archive ../../../../hw/xgl/glx/.libs/libxglx.a ../../../../hw/xgl/glxext/.libs/libxglglxext.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive  -lglitz-glx -lGL -lpthread -lglitz -lXrender -lX11 -lXrandr -lxkbfile -lXinerama -lm  -m64 -mtune=generic -Wl,-soname -Wl,libxglx.so -o .libs/libxglx.so
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [libxglx.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/xorg-x11-server-Xgl/hw/xgl/glx/module'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/xorg-x11-server-Xgl/hw/xgl/glx'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/xorg-x11-server-Xgl/hw/xgl'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/xorg-x11-server-Xgl/hw'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.97254 (%build)
RPM build errors:
    Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.97254 (%build)

Any ideas?..

61. Le jeudi 14 juin 2007, 20:49 par Nicofo

Sorry, I cannot help you for the compilation (just the option "-lGL" non OK: test without ??).
But I'm surprised that my script with FC5 doesn't work. Are you sure that
1) you have uninstalled XGL from the previous script ("installXGL -r") ?
2) you ATI driver is good installed ? (test in a non-XGL session with a 3D game for instance). This is mandatory for XGL.

62. Le vendredi 15 juin 2007, 14:30 par yr

Hi.
>2) you ATI driver is good installed ? (test in a non-XGL session with a >3D game for instance). This is mandatory for XGL.
Absolutely. On my mashine "Open Arena", "3D Chess". "FreeDoom" and similar is working without any problem.
As for uninstalling XGL from the previous script "installXGL -r" -- YES, but I will try this again for "clear" result...

63. Le samedi 16 juin 2007, 01:14 par xaltednet

For nvidia - fedora 7 users try this to get it working. I found this installer to lock up my desktop when activated thus i stumbled over the following sequence of keys that work for me:
as root or sudo,

#Uninstall all
installXGL_EN -r

#using the livna repo
#activate 3d ability
yum -y install kmod-nvidia
/sbin/init 3

# log in as root and then issue
nvidia-config-display enable
/sbin/init 5

# log back in as root or yourself and use sudo
yum -y install beryl-kde

#log in as yourself and run this command to active effects
beryl-manager

and this work flawlessly for me with fedora 7 with our having to change X-org settings

64. Le mercredi 20 juin 2007, 16:27 par muscimol

Hello,
any of you have a successful experience installing Beryl in fedora 7 in a dual screen environment, in an AMD-64 machine?
I want to do it but I'm afraid of making a big crash and I would like your advice on that.
Thanks

65. Le samedi 23 juin 2007, 00:02 par Nicofo

Hello,
the script works now for Fedora 7 and 64-bits architecture.
Give me your feedback.

66. Le samedi 23 juin 2007, 04:18 par BenR

Nico,
I love your script! You are my hero.
I just downloaded and ran your latest version. It installed perfectly but I am getting lots of visual artifacts on screen (usually when I move a window or when the typing carat moves), and the visual effects seem a bit sluggish. For example, when I drag a window or change focus, there is a fraction of a second delay between when I click the mouse and when the computer performs the action.
Do you think it is possible that the old script "dirtied up" my environment for the new script somehow? I didn't do any uninstalling before running the new script, as I was not sure how.
(I am running 32-bit Fedora 7)

67. Le samedi 23 juin 2007, 04:45 par BenR

Nico,
Nevermind, I'm dumb, I just found your -r option. I'll play around with this a bit more and let you know what I come up with!

68. Le samedi 23 juin 2007, 04:53 par BenR

Alright, uninstalling using -r and then reinstalling didn't appear to help anything. I'm stumped... I'd be interested to hear if other F7 users are experiencing the same issue, or if it's just me.

69. Le samedi 23 juin 2007, 12:15 par Nicofo

Hello BenR,
you have found the -r option, but it wasn't necessary: the new script uninstalls the old version if necessary.
Do you have the same sluggish effects with compiz and beryl ? Is your fglrx driver well installed on your F7 ? (I know it is not entirely ready now: can you test it in a non-XGL session with a 3D game/application and see if it is sluggish as well). Nevertheless I'm happy to see it is working (even if it is sluggish).

70. Le samedi 23 juin 2007, 16:51 par BenR

Nico,
I haven't tried any of your suggestions yet, I will do that soon, but for now let me write this quick note.

The version of Beryl that is installed using F7's "Add/Remove Applications" program (which I think is a noob-friendly front end for yum, but I am not positive) works perfectly - the windows move and wobble with no lag, the desktop cube rotates perfectly and with transparency - so I am thinking that my drivers are correctly installed.

The problem is that that version does not use Xgl, but rather draws directly on $DISPLAY=:0.0. I am thinking that this does not deactivate when I bring another 3D application up (such as a nice screensaver), and since the computer has to work to needlessly render both, does so very slowly.

Since my Ubuntu install of Xgl + Beryl worked flawlessly on the same machine, I thought Xgl in F7 would be a snap and give me the same wonderful results. Unfortunately it's not so easy as I had hoped (without your wonderful script, that is!), and with these latest sluggish results, I am doubting my logic.

Do you see any errors in my reasoning, or do I have more or less the right idea?

71. Le samedi 23 juin 2007, 22:21 par Nicofo

Hi,
I thing I have understood your problem: beryl works fine without XGL ! But your problem is that any other 3D appli doesn't ==> I think you have not installed the fglrx drivers for your graphic card (you have an ATI, haven't you ?)

For the ATI cards, you have the 2 kinds of drivers: radeon and fglrx (please read the first § of this howto). To check yours, see if you have installed "xorg-x11-drv-fglrx" ?
I'll give you more info if you tell me I'm right: please tell me which card you have and which drivers.

72. Le lundi 25 juin 2007, 14:47 par BenR

Nico,
I think you are right. I do have an ATI card, and I don't think the fglrx drivers are installed. I got confused when I read:

To check the installation, run "glxinfo | grep direct": it should return "direct rendering: Yes".

I got that result, but I think I have the open-source radeon driver and not the proprietary ati one. (I also thought that beginning with F7, proprietary software was included with the default installation.)

I will try to install the fglrx drivers and get back to you. Thanks for the help, and sorry for bothering you with my newbie issues...

73. Le lundi 25 juin 2007, 22:21 par Nicofo

You are welcome !
In fact you have now two possibilities:

• keep the free radeon driver: you have seen that 3D desktop works (no need to install XGL with that driver), but any other 3D application doesn't very well
• install the fglrx driver: every 3D application will work and the 3D desktop will also work but only after installing XGL. BUT the fglrx driver is not yet available for F7 (nevertheless there is a temporary fix: read more here). I advice you to wait they become available (normally by the end of this month) and then run my script again.

74. Le jeudi 28 juin 2007, 16:52 par BenR

Nico,
From what I can gather, the newest fglrx drivers - released a couple of days ago - still have significant issues with F7 and Xorg 1.3. How disappointing...
Anyways, I do appreciate your help, but it looks like for right now I'll be sticking with the free driver, at least until a new option is available.
Once again, thank you for all your scripting efforts, I'm sure a great number of others have benefited from your work. Take care!

75. Le vendredi 29 juin 2007, 18:15 par Samuel

Nico, I has been installed beryl + xgl + fglrx under CentOS taking a review into your scripts and using FC6 packages (readapting some to allow installation under centos 5).
All is working fine except:
1) noXgl appears not work (don't know why).
2) I have an external LCD monitor and I can only see an "X" cursor into it when I move the mouse over it (black screen plus a "X" mouse cursor). The dualhead configuration is without xinerama and were working fine with fglrx and radeon drivers before the xgl install.

Could you help me about the second issue? the first one its not a problem for me at the moment.

Thanks

76. Le vendredi 29 juin 2007, 18:37 par Samuel

Sorry, perhaps I not explained fine above.
Before installing xgl, I had 2 desktops working fine (fglrx and/or radeon).
Now (appears to be beryl independent problem), I had 1 desktop working as before but with beryl working fine (great!!) and 1 empty desktop. The xorg.conf has the same serverlayout and screens/devices/monitor definitions in the 2 cases, but Xgl don’t want to load my second desktop (or I don’t know how to say it how it has to load my second desktop).
That is my real problem.

77. Le dimanche 1 juillet 2007, 13:48 par Nicofo

Hi Samuel,
1) as you have modified my script, perhaps should you reinstall just the settings of XGL: simply rerun installXGL_EN (the part "4) Configuration of XGL" is important and has to be done AFTER the installation of XGL)
2)sorry, no idea. As my concern, I have done nothing concerning the dualhead configuration. And it's working fine... I only can confirm you it's a beryl independent problem (it's probably related to XGL).

78. Le dimanche 1 juillet 2007, 17:28 par Robert

Hello,
After running throught the provided steps i actually made progress, however after i log out and tell the system to boot with "GNOME + XGL" i arrive at a black screen and then i am logged off in a couple of seconds. If i boot into "KDE +XGL" i am just stuck at a black screen.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

79. Le dimanche 1 juillet 2007, 21:52 par Nicofo

Can you tell me
- if your driver (fglrx I guess) is well installed (a 3D game/appli must work in a normal Gnome or KDE session): see the frame in my how-to.
- if OK, give me the content of your ~/.xsession-errors file after an attempt to an XGL session (caution: that file is overwritten at every graphical session => you must recover that file from a text session <CTRL><ALT><F1> or from a graphical root session)
- eventually, check the X errors with "grep [EW][EW] /var/log/Xorg.1.log" or "grep [EW][EW] /var/log/Xorg.0.log"

80. Le lundi 2 juillet 2007, 00:22 par Robert

Nevermind, i got it working, Thanks for the quick response though

81. Le lundi 2 juillet 2007, 15:49 par Jai

I'd like to know how Robert resolved the black screen at startup on KDE. I still have the same problem.

82. Le vendredi 6 juillet 2007, 19:07 par partha

Hi Nicofo,

I have installed Xgl using your script on my machine, dv8000 running Fedora 7. I have an ATI card running fglrx (see my website for a write up). The installation of Xgl was semi-smooth. I am having problems with xine (or vlc or mplayer) - the video is choppy. Any suggestions? I have tried changing the video output to opengl, but makes it worse. Xine with xv seems to be the smoothest. Anyway, I plan to write a column with my experience on my website. Any suggestions about xine welcome. Oh, I am running Beryl.

Thanks,
Partha
www.partha.com

83. Le vendredi 6 juillet 2007, 20:21 par Nicofo

Hi,
I don't know if it will help (if so, tell me...), but you can try to play with the option 'Option "VideoOverlay" "on"' in your Device section of your xorg.conf (under Driver "fglrx"): try with "on" then "off".
Anyway, the command noXgl should help you (noXgl xine / vlc / totem / ...).

84. Le vendredi 6 juillet 2007, 23:22 par partha

HI Nicofo,

Thanks. I already have VideoOverlay on (fglrx will not work without it), in xorg.conf. I guess I will have to use noXgl. Note that this is not a problem with nvidia and Beryl and xine works fine there.

Thanks,
Partha
www.partha.com

85. Le jeudi 12 juillet 2007, 12:39 par mps

Salut,

Thanks for the script, its great.

However I used your script on F7 64 bit install, with an ATI1600. When I log in used Gnome + XGl beryl works, but my task bar and the clock area of the upper panel are blanked out.

Also, if I try to start XGL + Beryl from within a non-xgl gnome session, beryl crashes each time.

Any ideas what is going on?
M.

86. Le dimanche 15 juillet 2007, 22:50 par Nicofo

Salut,
* don't try lauching XGL/beryl from within a normal gnome session: it cannot work. Eventually, if you want to lauch XGL manually, lauch it from a text session (<CTRL><ALT><F1>).
* for your task bar: sorry I don't know. Try to relaunch the panel: "killall gnome-panel" ?

87. Le lundi 30 juillet 2007, 07:02 par halms

hi,

ive followed all the instructions. but when i select gnome+xgl session, i got an error dialog. the .xsession-errors states

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

(gnome-session:3610): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display

any ideas? im almost giving up on beryl and compiz...

88. Le lundi 30 juillet 2007, 12:44 par Nicofo

Hi,
you are under Fedora 7 ? Is your normal gnome session working fine with the fglrx driver (=> direct rendering=yes, 3D applications working) ?

89. Le mardi 31 juillet 2007, 09:39 par Nicofo

I think I have a solution for you: install "xorg-x11-fonts-base" with yum. Tell me if it works now.

90. Le samedi 18 août 2007, 23:51 par 3lefant

how can I use the script, if I'm behind the proxy

91. Le dimanche 19 août 2007, 02:41 par Gargantua

Wow... what a great script, thanks alot man.

92. Le mardi 21 août 2007, 04:35 par ServerChief

Hey,

I just wanted to say thank you for such a wonderful script!!!!
It saved many hours for me trying to figure this our:)

----------------------------------------------
Regards
ServerChief
www.serverchief.com

93. Le vendredi 31 août 2007, 09:37 par Jun

Doesn't work with my graphics card, lots of display problems.

Also, when I tried to remove it my desktop-effects menu disappeared(system>>preferences>>look and feel>>desktop-effects. I can't run it in command prompt either.

How do I return everything to normal?

94. Le vendredi 31 août 2007, 10:06 par Jun

Never mind again, I was able to fix the video not playing under desktop-effects issue. I set the output module to X11 - it needs to be set in VLC player as well.

95. Le vendredi 31 août 2007, 10:45 par Jun

Except X11 quality is terrible and hogs resources. Isn't there a better way to get this to work?

96. Le vendredi 31 août 2007, 22:58 par Jun

Oh, I forgot to mention I was able to get everything back to normal. Unfortunately I didn't realize the script had an uninstall feature, that would have made it much easier I bet.

97. Le mercredi 5 septembre 2007, 16:20 par John

Have you had any experience with getting compiz-fusion to work with xinerama? I've got two screens and I need xinerama to "function".... got any suggestions? - And thanks... My F7 install of compiz failed for two weeks until I finally found your scripts... instantly worked. Good job.

98. Le mercredi 5 septembre 2007, 20:35 par Nicofo

Sorry, I don't use xinerama, I cannot help you for this point.

99. Le dimanche 9 septembre 2007, 22:20 par loop

Very nice script indeed!
I got everything working under FC7 w/o trouble, except one... which I suppose must be a silly one...

I can have all the features and combinations running only when logging on as root. Any combination of Gnome+Xgl + fusion-icon (or whatever) and logging on as normal user causes the X to crash and puts me back to the logon screen... (I have ATI and accel working with fglrx from livna).

I would appreciate a tip. Have you seen anything like that?

Thanks much!

100. Le mardi 11 septembre 2007, 05:34 par droezva

Mi ingles no es bueno:

The Best Best Best information about of installation of XGL compiz fusion on Fedora 7

Congratulation!!!!

101. Le mardi 11 septembre 2007, 19:59 par Nicofo

Thanks droezva

@loop: have you a section DRI in your xorg.conf ? If no, add it (see in my howto above in the ATI drivers installation)

102. Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007, 17:03 par loop

Hi Nicofo,

Thanks very much for the tip... I am almost sure I had it put in the first time but when I looked again it was missing indeed...

Let me say once more... Your script makes lives much easier and thanks a lot for that! It's great!

The other thing is that not everything is as beautiful as it should ;( I believe these issues are not at all related to you script but generally to the soft. Ok I observe the following:

1) Xgl + Gnome: some applets in the gnome-panel are gone. Either not loading or loading with an error which explains almost nothing. I googled and found no solution.

2) Xgl + KDE:
- decorations not there - appear when switched to Emerald
- on consequtive logins the compiz fusion icon is loaded twice - weird...

Occasionally I also see that the things get super slow. This is probably due to fglrx failure - Xgl goes 100% CPU and the graphics performance reaches hell.

THanks once more! + My best!

103. Le jeudi 13 septembre 2007, 20:00 par Nicofo

1) I have the same problem (though very rare). Solution: logoff/login (If anyone has a more suitable solution...)

2) Weird that decorations work with Gnome but not KDE: try "emerald --replace" in a terminal to see errors (if any).

For the double fusion-icon, I guess it's because the first one is not stopped when you logout KDE the first time. It seems to be a KDE issue then. If this is a problem for you, you can copy line 38 (kill -9...) just before line 152 (fusion-icon&) in the file /usr/bin/startCompositeWM. It should do the trick

104. Le jeudi 13 septembre 2007, 22:05 par loop

Thanks for the hints...

Actually now the decorations in KDE are fine... however I have switched to
Compiz-fusion (with Emerald)
instead of
Comiz-fusion (with fusion-icon)

solving the fusion-icon problem and decorations at the same time.
There are still some glitches though... Usually KPower icon does not make it to the notification area but pops on the desktop... Logoff/login here helps...

And about the gnome... No I somehow do not get the icons even efter logoff/login... ;(

My best!

105. Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, 14:17 par Nicofo

Hello,
I know why you had 2 fusion-icon icons in KDE: probably because of the automatic session restore of KDE. I have it disabled and no problem with it.
And perhaps because there were 2 fusion-icon causes the window decorator not to start ?

106. Le mercredi 26 septembre 2007, 11:01 par MacSvensson

Thanks a lot for this wonderful explanation of XGL, AIGLX, Compiz etc... on Fedora for fglrx. Everything I always wanted to know but couldn't quite find combined on one page, and a brilliant script to automate the install.
This is computing made user-friendly.
A very big thank you !!
I installed XGL and compiz-fusion with beryl, and it runs wonderfully

107. Le vendredi 28 septembre 2007, 21:53 par Jed

Hi, this page has been extremely useful, however, I'm still having a touch of trouble. I have the ATI drivers installed. I am able to boot into Gnome without any problems, and run glxgears at ~3000 fps. However, I'm trying to get it going on 2 monitors. Everything I just said works fine with two monitors, as you'd expect. One problem is that glx gears works fine on the primary monitor, but not on the secondary (the window just shows black). A second problem is that when I try to boot into Gnome+XGL, I get an error box that pops up after a few seconds. When I view the .xsession-errors I see "Couldn't create Glitz drawable for window" then: "Fatal Error: No screens found". It seems your extensive knowledge of the subject might come in handy right about now. Thanks for your help!

108. Le samedi 29 septembre 2007, 11:33 par Nicofo

Hello,
Have you a section "screen" in your xorg.conf ? Check your Xorg.log: "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and "grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log"

109. Le lundi 1 octobre 2007, 18:27 par Jed

Screen sections in my xorg.conf:

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
        Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]"
        Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[1]"
        Device     "aticonfig-Device[1]"
        Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[1]"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

As you can see, they were put there by aticonfig --initial=dual-head, and it works quite well for gnome without XGL.

Result of grep EE

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

Result of grep WW:

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(WW) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout.
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
(WW) fglrx(0): Option "VendorName" is not used
(WW) fglrx(0): Option "ModelName" is not used
(WW) <default pointer>: No Device specified, looking for one...

Thanks for the quick response, I hope we can get this problem solved!
---Jed---

110. Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, 03:27 par Tehnik

>>Fatal server error:
>>could not open default font 'fixed'
>I think I have a solution for you: install "xorg-x11-fonts-base" with yum. Tell me if it >works now.

I have the same problem. X server (not Xgl) starts normally. My distro is Fedora 7, DE is Gnome . I have ATI Radeon 9600 card. I chose compiz+fusion.
When I start Xgl, it says it cannot find font 'fixed'.
The package xorg-x11-fonts-base is already installed on my system.

111. Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, 04:22 par Tehnik

Now I managed to run Xgl without errors. The problem was in FontPath options in xorg.conf. I've commented them and Xgl doesn't complain it cannot find fixed font anymore.
But if I execute 'Xgl', all I see is a black screen and a cursor. I can move the cursor but nothing happens.
If I run startx and livna-config-display, I can choose among AIGLX,XGL,Disalbe All and Manual. If I chose AIGLX or XGL (I don't remember exactly), on the next session start Xgl is run:
ps aux|grep Xgl
tehnik 28967 0.0 0.5 10740 2824 tty1 S 05:41 0:00 /usr/bin/Xgl :2 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer
But I have no desktop effects enabled. If I run 'desktop-effects', the Xgl will crash

112. Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, 11:31 par Tehnik

Now if there is an option Composite Enable in xorg.conf and I run desktop-effects, Xgl crashes and I can see these lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c2d21]
1: [0x110420]
2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libGLcore.so [0x8904d4]
3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libGLcore.so [0x8908ed]
4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so(DoCreateContext+0x10e) [0x1f2f8e]
5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so [0x1f3184]
6: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so [0x1f553c]
7: X [0x815235e]
8: X(Dispatch+0x1aa) [0x80899fa]
9: X(main+0x495) [0x8071735]
10: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0) [0xb0ef70]
11: X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x1e9) [0x8070a21]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborting

I wonder if I ever see Xgl working :\

113. Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, 17:25 par Nicofo

@Jed: sorry, I have the same kind of warnings but everything is working fine. Does XGL+3D effects work in a single-head configuration ?

@Tehnik: please follow my howto above to configure your xorg.conf. If you want to use "livna-config-display" instead, the right option to choose is "Disable all" (yes, NOT XGL ! otherwise you will no be able to start a 'normal' (=non-xgl) session). Then, in GDM (after the restart of your X server), choose Options>Session>GNOME+XGL.

PS1: you will have to use "livna-config-display" once and choose "Disable all" to undo the changes in GDM config files.
PS2: don't lauch XGL from terminal: it's not so easy because you have to use the right options and then lauch Gnome... Use the "GNOME+XGL" session in GDM instead.
PS3: don't use "desktop-effect": it will not work properly with ATI: there is a more convenient tool with XGL to enable/choose the 3D-effects (compiz or beryl): "XGL Window Manager" (in the System>Preferences menu).

114. Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, 18:17 par Jed

Again, thanks for the quick response, you've been a huge help! I disabled the multihead layout and everything works beautifully. As I mentioned before, when I ran glxgears on the multihead layout, it would run well on one screen, and black on the other. I'd love to see this wonderful window manager working on both screens, it would truly be wonderful. Let me know if you have any other ideas.

115. Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, 18:47 par Jed

EDIT: There is one small problem. My gnome panels are missing the windows. What I mean is, I have Pidgin start up upon login. When I log in, the buddy list window comes up, but the window does not seem to be seen by the gnome panel (as in, there's nothing in the window list, and there's nothing in the application selector section). Also, the workspace switcher is gone. I don't know what this means or how to fix it at all.

116. Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, 18:56 par Jed

ANOTHER EDIT:
By disabling the Xinerama option in my xorg.conf (duh!), I was able to log in to gnome + XGL without any trouble. However, the secondary screen is just half of my background image, with nothing on it. When I mouse over to it, I get the X mouse image, and cannot do anything with it. Do I need to start gnome twice? Thanks again for all the help!

117. Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, 19:33 par Nicofo

Hello,
your problem concerns a dual-head config. Unfortunately I cannot help you a lot with it, sorry (I have never really tried myself and don't know the Xinemara options). I suggest you ask for help on the forum forums.fedoraforum.org .

For your problem with the workspace switcher, right-click on the Gnome panel>Add to Panel>Workspace Switcher.

118. Le mercredi 3 octobre 2007, 06:23 par Tehnik

Thanks for your your answers. But I still can't make Xgl work :\

>PS1: you will have to use "livna-config-display" once and choose "Disable all" to >undo the changes in GDM config files.
done

>PS2: don't lauch XGL from terminal: it's not so easy because you have to use the >right options and then lauch Gnome... Use the "GNOME+XGL" session in GDM >instead.
accepted

>PS3: don't use "desktop-effect": it will not work properly with ATI: there is a more >convenient tool with XGL to enable/choose the 3D-effects (compiz or beryl): "XGL >Window Manager" (in the System>Preferences menu).
OK.

A bit about my hardware:
-CPU: AMD Athlon 3200+
-RAM: 512Mb
-Vcard: ATI Radeon 9600 (256 Mb VRAM onboard).

Software:
-Distro: Fedora 7
-uname -r: 2.6.22.9-91.fc7
-DE: Gnome
-CWM: Compiz

I ran "Gnome+XGL" session and what I got was a poor system performance and a low screen resolution (800x600). gnome-display-properties offered to choose among 800x600 and 640x480 only. I left the former. I saw no stuff like cube, transparence etc.

I tried to choose different window managers with XGL:
-Compiz
-Compiz-fusion with emerald
-Compiz-fusion with fusion-icon

Also I tried to mark and unmark Inderect Rendering and Loose Binding (I don't know what these options mean. I just tried to turn on and off everything that might be related to activating Xgl features)
But nothing helped to enable desktop effects.

After having chosen Compiz via fusion-icon all windows lost their window header (the part of window containing close,maximize and minimize buttons) and were aligned to upper-left corner.
But when specifying Metacity, the normal behaviour of windows comes back.

I tried to bind keyboard shortcuts to initiate and rotate the cube in CompizConfig Settings Manager, tried to enable different features (like benchmark). But none of them worked. I'm sure I specified unused keyboard shortcuts to avoid conflits with other applications which could use the same key combinations.

No theme in Emerald Themer was applied when I tried to.

Here is the output of "ps aux|grep Xgl" to ensure Xgl is running:

tehnik    2875  0.0  0.1   4496   516 ?        Ss   06:48   0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startXgl
tehnik    2878  0.0  0.0   2836   488 ?        S    06:48   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startXgl
tehnik    2881  3.7  2.9  23040 15304 ?        S    06:48   0:13 /usr/bin/Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer

When I start xdm I can play 3D games like warsow. It means fglrx works properly.

What am I doing wrong? How to enable Xgl features? When Xgl works and its features are enabled, can I see it right after exectuing your script and running Gnome+XGL session or do I have edit some configs or perform any other actions?
I'm at my wits' end. You are my last hope.
Thanks in advance.

119. Le mercredi 3 octobre 2007, 21:56 par bostko

I have problems installing this xgl packages. First of all when I can't login my system with gnome+xgl the screen just blinks and again ask me for password, and when I open synaptic it tells me that there is one damaged package xorg-x11-server-Xgl.
Any ideas!?

120. Le mercredi 3 octobre 2007, 22:29 par bostko

I'm sory I wasn't clear enough. I use Fedora7 and I have ATI Radeon 9550 with installed drivers.

121. Le jeudi 4 octobre 2007, 20:40 par Nicofo

@Tehnik: what a long message ! A few questions before continuing:
1) do you use a 64bits architecture ?
2) I'm wondering is your fglrx is really working (since you have problem of resolution): what are the results of (under a XGL session)

fglrxinfo
noXgl glxinfo | grep direct

3) perhaps try with compiz (not fusion, especially if under a 64bits) or beryl (compiz-fusion is too young and perhaps less stable)
4) the problem to apply an emerald theme is known under XGL: you have to update it "manually" with: "emerald --replace"
5) you have lost your windows decorations ? in fusion-icon select "Reload Window Manager" or choose another decorator in "Select Window Decorator"

@bostko: Please follow the instructions at my comment #79 above.
Especially have a look at the .xsession-error file and check if there are any error.

122. Le vendredi 5 octobre 2007, 06:18 par Tehnik

Finally it works!!!

> 1) do you use a 64bits architecture ?
nope

>2) I'm wondering is your fglrx is really working (since you have problem of > >resolution)
I've found out what was wrong.
I noticed (in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old) that the wrong config file had been used:
(==) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf"
instead of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
I wonder why. That lead to loading a wrong driver (radeon instead of fglrx) and other ensuing consequences. Then I copied /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /root/xorg.conf (I could make a symlink though) and it helped to enable all the desktop effects!

Everything works fine and quite fast! The system performance is excellent and I don't have to use 800x600 screen resolution anymore:)

Man, you're great! Your script is all-a-person-can-dream-about:)
One should build a monument in your honour!

123. Le dimanche 14 octobre 2007, 01:13 par Philip

Hey you're great!

It took me about 10 hours to get the ATI drivers running on my Fedora Core 7 (Athlon XP - Barton 2800, Radeon 9550 AGP, kernel 2.6.22.7-85.fc7). In the end I fully installed 5 different kernels because of various troubles with each one (the new 2.6.23-1 isn't supported at all).
After another 10 hours working around to get Beryl running I was just about to give up.
After finding your page your script perfectly did the job in about 10 minutes (just started without parameters). After various package updates I have not Beryl and Compiz running with full 3D acceleration.

124. Le lundi 15 octobre 2007, 01:34 par Tamer T. A. Ghattass

I had that output from the command "beryl-xgl --use-copy"

[root@NETEGYPT-ADSL tamer_net]# beryl-xgl --use-copy
Xlib: extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0".
xvinfo: No X-Video Extension on :0.0
**************************************************************
* Beryl system compatiblity check *
**************************************************************
Xlib: extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0".
xvinfo: No X-Video Extension on :0.0

Detected xserver : NVIDIA

Checking Display :0.0 ...

Checking for XComposite extension : passed (v0.3)
Checking for XDamage extension : passed
Checking for RandR extension : passed
Checking for XSync extension : failed

No sync extension
[root@NETEGYPT-ADSL tamer_net]#

and every time I start the session with KDE or GNOME +XGL the session restart like pressing Ctrl+Alt+backspace
and the same is happen when I run the command "glxinfo | grep direct "
so what is wrong ?
thank you
Tamer

125. Le mardi 16 octobre 2007, 20:20 par Nicofo

Well, with an nvidia you do not need XGL (even though it should work): nvidia drivers integrate everything for the 3D desktop to work.

126. Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007, 00:11 par Tamer T. A. Ghattass

Thank you Nicofo
so I uninstalled the XGL but I kept compiz-fusion and I was having beryl
BUT I can not start it? if I start the beryl every application opened on the 4 desktop is opened behind each other and I can not access any of them except the one on the top ( in the face of the screen ) and there is no border and no title bar also
I want to see the beautiful cube like this in my desktop nicofo.tuxfamily.org/dotc...

so can you help me

Tamer

127. Le jeudi 18 octobre 2007, 20:42 par Nicofo

Are the nvidia drivers well installed ? And well configured (don't ask me how since I have no nVidia, but it should be easier than with ATI) ? Those drivers are mandatory for compiz/beryl to work !
For the border and title bar, try "emerald --replace"

128. Le mercredi 24 octobre 2007, 02:56 par Tehnik

You can finally run your ATI graphics card with the fglrx driver and run Compiz, Beryl, or Compiz Fusion without using XGL as AIGLX is already supported by the new version of fglrx!

www.phoronix.com/scan.php...

129. Le vendredi 2 novembre 2007, 22:44 par lobstaman

Hi Nicofo,

I am about to reinstall fedora and would like to get your advice. I am a bit confused here - with the new 8.42.3 driver is there a need to run your script or should I just install the new driver (e.g. NO xgl installation) ? Also, is it better to stick with FC7 or wait to FC8 with respect to the fglrx driver?

And one final question ... any advice with respect to the fglrx driver and suspend/hibernate? In the past fglrx was known to break suspend to ram.

Thanks!

130. Le dimanche 4 novembre 2007, 20:58 par Nicofo

Hi,
with the new ATI driver (8.42), you do not need to install XGL anymore: the driver integrates the AIGLX support instead.
I would suggest you to wait for F8 since it will be available in 4 days.
Concerning the suspend: well, as my concern, it still doesn't work. Perhaps it depends on the hardware (not only the video card I mean ?)

131. Le jeudi 22 novembre 2007, 11:18 par phonk

Hello,

I tried the script on F8 but it failed ... it only works if I changed /etc/fedora-release to Fedora 7.

I got compiz running ... but the effects are very very slow ... the whole system got very slow.

The system is a AMD Turion with ATI xpress 200m

Can you help me ?

132. Le jeudi 22 novembre 2007, 20:14 par Nicofo

In fact, XGL rpm are not available for Fedora 8 and won't probably be since AIGLX is included in the new ATI drivers (since 8.42).
==> Normally you do not need to install XGL anymore.
If you want to, on Fedora 8, an easier way is to replace line 337 of installXGL_EN with "FED_VERSION=7" (the results will be the same as changing fedora-release as you did).
Now, if if doesn't work smoothly, I'm afraid I can't help you (I'm still under F7 : both XGL and AIGLX work).

133. Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007, 11:46 par Edoardo

Hello!

I am glad to read the update:
"the ATI drivers finally support AIGLX since the version 8.42. Installing XGL is not needed anymore to benefit from the effects of a 3D desktop."

now, I am using that driver, how can I disable Xgl?
using your script + FC7 x86_64 + ati r200 or similar

thanks
Edoardo

134. Le jeudi 29 novembre 2007, 22:43 par Nicofo

Well, it's very simple: rerun installXGL_EN with the "-r" option:

installXGL_EN -r

(moreover it's written in the article above )

135. Le vendredi 11 avril 2008, 12:33 par Hlingler

Hello, Nicofo:

Leigh123@Linux from FedoraForums.org referred me here due to a problem that I was having with an old NV Riva/TNT2 AGP video card and Compiz-fusion. He thought that perhaps your script to install the xorg-x11-server-Xgl would help. The script did install, even though I'm running F8 (as per your Post #132 above), but unfortunately it has not helped to get Compiz-Fusion working.

Although it is perhaps impossible to get Compiz-Fusion working on this hardware, I would like to know where you got the source code for the XGL server, so that maybe I can try to rebuild it for F8. If you could point me to the location of the source code, I would appreciate it.

Thanx for your time and help, and for the above script and software.

Regards,
VJSchiavoni

136. Le mardi 15 avril 2008, 19:55 par Nicofo

Hello,

you can find the sources of XGL here: download.tuxfamily.org/fe...

You say that XGL is installed on your PC. Does it work (without compiz-fusion) ? In F8, don't forget to disable AIGLX in your xorg.conf ! You must have these options (also see above in my article):
> Option "AIGLX" "false"
> Option "Composite" "Disable"

To test if XGL is working without compiz or beryl, start in init 3 (text mode), login and run "/usr/bin/Xgl :1 -fullscreen -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer -ac & " (PS: these options apply for an ATI or Intel card. Not sure they are good for your video card).
You should obtain a grey screen with just a cursor...
If ok, go back to your console (ctrl-alt-F1) and run gnome or kde ("DISPLAY=:1 gnome-session" or "DISPLAY=:1 startkde")

137. Le dimanche 1 juin 2008, 11:12 par Hlingler

Hello, Nico:

Thank You for the reply, and sorry that it took so long for me to respond.

Yes, Xgl works on F8, but not well: graphical performance is very poor. Xgl cleared the error: "No support for GLEXT_texture_from_pixmap", but there was a new problem: "No support for non power of two textures", so it seems that this videocard (NV Riva/TNT2 M64) is not adequate for Compiz-Fusion/3D-compositing. Oh, well, C'est la vie. I also downloaded the source code for Xgl and tried to re-compile, but it failed (I can't remember why...).

Thanx Again for your time and help. Hope to see you on Fedora Forums!

Regards,
VJSchiavoni

138. Le mercredi 20 mai 2009, 12:05 par bobTRE

I’m using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04.2 - http://rapid4me.com/?q=Ubuntu+Hardy... glib. Can you give me detail name of package? Thanks.

139. Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009, 18:26 par muscimol

this is the output when I run the script.
any suggestion ...Thanks

--2009-10-29 18:24:28-- http://download.tuxfamily.org/fedor...
Resolving download.tuxfamily.org... 88.191.250.18
Connecting to download.tuxfamily.org|88.191.250.18|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2009-10-29 18:24:29 ERROR 404: Not Found.

An error occured with the site of the XGL's rpm (http://download.tuxfamily.org/fedor...).
XGL is perhaps not available for your Fedora version or your architecture...

140. Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009, 20:07 par Nicofo

Hello,
the error is indicated: "XGL is perhaps not available for your Fedora version or your architecture..."
=> XGL is only available as RPM for fedora 5, 6 or 7. So as you can see it has become deprecated.

Why do you need XGL ? Probably for the 3D desktop ?
=> then use AIGLX instead which is nowadays included in every graphic driver.

141. Le samedi 17 avril 2010, 21:28 par Search Engine

Thanks for the script that installs and configures XGL on Fedora. I was looking for it. Hope it will work properly.

142. Le samedi 17 avril 2010, 23:31 par Nicofo

Hi,
Yes, it'll work properly... but only if you use Fedora 5, 6 or 7. XGL is not supported anymore and is replaced by AIGLX (read my previous comment #140)

143. Le lundi 17 mai 2010, 01:54 par file search engine

Thanks for this stuff, our system administrator has used as guidance while installing necessary add-ons on Fedora.
Best regards.

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